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Post by Crazy Mg on Mar 5, 2013 1:13:33 GMT -8
I could have easily not voted yesterDay, which if anyone cares to re-read is obvious I didn't, Mari gets lynched and thats down to me? I don't think so. If you're referring to what I said to Phoe, and I can't find anything else you could be referring to, I was only pointing out that Phoe can't blame everything on me like she was, as others were around too. Phoe: "Crazy, it's all your fault! you should have unvoted!" Me: "There was others actually around to unvote, including yourself and Cala who even voted after the claim, so you can't blame it all on me" Cala: "Well it's not all my fault!" Over Defensive much?
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Post by cala on Mar 5, 2013 8:53:31 GMT -8
No singing today - sad bunny
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 10:43:21 GMT -8
Also, I'm confused by saying that you have a hard time believing role claims (with historical precedent) to general acceptance of them to the point where any earlierimpressions as thrown out. I'm just looking to understand this a bit deeper. It's simple. Am I going to be able to convince anyone ELSE that the people who have claimed are lying? Doubtful, therefore I am forced to accept them as innocent because everyone else has accepted them as such. Leaves me very few places to look doesn't it? So you're willing to go along with the role claims because everyone else is, but not the suspicion that others have? If you think they're faking it, convince the rest of us. Maybe you're the one who's right! This just doesn't square up.
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Phoenix
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Post by Phoenix on Mar 5, 2013 12:28:46 GMT -8
I tried that already, the day Rosegold got banned. And then suddenly there's screenshots so it doesn't matter how logical the arguments are *poof* he's an innocent.
So why bother trying again?
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 12:35:50 GMT -8
The day Rosegold got lynched, you mean? Who was your primary suspicion?
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 12:41:22 GMT -8
That last sentence is a questioning statement, not a question.
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 12:57:41 GMT -8
I'm debating switching my vote. I'd like to see why others think I should or shouldn't.
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:00:21 GMT -8
Oh, BTW:
If we have two rogues, and we suppose that their names are Cala and Phoenix, then everyone else needs to vote for the same person, or the game is over. Right now I believe we're Cala-3, Phoe-1
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Post by DementedDuck on Mar 5, 2013 13:05:03 GMT -8
But I want to vote for Phoe. :[
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:05:22 GMT -8
Actually, that's not true. We could decide to not lynch, and tomorrow it'd be 3:2 or 4:1. We should talk about this.
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:05:45 GMT -8
Do you think Cala is innocent, DD?
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:08:20 GMT -8
Are you willing to vote for anyone besides Phoe? Do you think there is only one rogue left?
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Post by Crazy Mg on Mar 5, 2013 13:09:59 GMT -8
I'm willing to switch to phoe.
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Post by DementedDuck on Mar 5, 2013 13:11:30 GMT -8
I thought cala was innocent, and my brain is still saying she is (I FoI'd her after Twopatch's lynch so the evidence suggests to me she is). However, it's not a strong FoI and all her recent posts have had my gut twitching. So I'm a bit torn. I'm willing to vote cala if it's the only way to get a lynch. I don't want us to miss lynches, but I still would rather lynch Phoe. Yes, I think there's only one rogue left.
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Post by Crazy Mg on Mar 5, 2013 13:18:12 GMT -8
I'm good with either lynch. Just depends on Sets or DD willing to change.
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:18:18 GMT -8
Let's stay on Cala.
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:19:03 GMT -8
I'm second guessing DD.
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Post by Crazy Mg on Mar 5, 2013 13:20:46 GMT -8
Okay my new phone will do stupid stuff.
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:23:01 GMT -8
Phoenix has mixed up banning and lynching twice. I'm intrigued that Cala won't commit on Phoe.
Trying to work through yesterday - the lynch protected Cala only to set her up to lynch her toDay. Why? If she was innocent, why not let the lynch go through yesterday? If she's a rogue...was banning Jolyma enough to stop a Cala lunch? Why Joly over Sets? Why is DD still alive and why have his rather powerful actions had little effect?
So many questions. I need help!
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Post by cala on Mar 5, 2013 13:23:30 GMT -8
So toDays conversation consisted of, we all must vote Cala cos Luv said so and Mari asked us to. Lets ask for other thoughts, oh wait they dont matter we're voting Cala anyway.
I won't be voting, nor will I be around for deadline. Obviously there is little reason in me leaving a proxy, so again I wont be.
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:23:33 GMT -8
Okay my new phone will do stupid stuff. Like what? Post and vote on its own? =-p
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:24:38 GMT -8
(Said in jest, wondering if that was a future projection.)
Phoenix, you think there are two rogues left. Give us some possible pairings.
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Post by cala on Mar 5, 2013 13:26:24 GMT -8
I won't commit on Phoe because I don't see enough in her to commit, although what does interest me is she has made the ban/lynch booch today yet noone, other than a passing comment by Luv seems to be even bothered by it.
Rogues think in bans, innocents think in lynches, or did I miss the memo on that one?
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Post by DementedDuck on Mar 5, 2013 13:28:28 GMT -8
If you really think I could have faked that outbox screenshot in ~4 minutes, I am extremely flattered.
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Post by Crazy Mg on Mar 5, 2013 13:29:45 GMT -8
Okay my new phone will do stupid stuff. Like what? Post and vote on its own? =-p I didn't thimk the first post went through, but it did.
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:34:33 GMT -8
As you should be. I have high respects++ for your talents.
Cala, you may have missed that historically it seems to have done by as many rogues as innocents, except always by Argemone. I don't know what it means for Phoe.
Still wondering how you've come into toDay without enough suspicion to vote anyone, but thanks for not just retali-suspecting me.
I'm trying to get some discussion going, but I don't want folks moving around willy-nilly without it.
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:38:15 GMT -8
Although, I'm troubled that there was "enough" from Rose to commit to her lynch, but not enough from Phoe, even after pointing out we should be concerned by the ban/lynch confusion.
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Post by Luvessy on Mar 5, 2013 13:38:36 GMT -8
(When Phoe was the other name on the chopping block.)
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Post by DementedDuck on Mar 5, 2013 13:41:09 GMT -8
I get a pretty bad feeling from that lynch, too. rose was an easy lynch to push, I should really go back and see who seemed to have a big part in pushing suspicion in that direction. I say should, but I'm really hungry...
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Post by cala on Mar 5, 2013 13:42:05 GMT -8
Sets lead the push on Riss bigstyle so it seems a huge risk to play from a rogue, but since has virtually disappeared from the radar (yes good old RL), but there isn't the pushing prominent statements from him there was at the beginning of the game. Maybe lynching Riss was all part of a masterplan (seems a bit far fetched but who knows) and if he's a rogue he's a bloody good one.
I rely a lot on my gut playing this game, and my gut has got it wrong, I am finding it hard to pin anything on the players left, because you are all too damn good. Kudos to whichever one of you is/are the rogue(s) you've played a blinding game.
I won't be voting primarily because at this moment in time it will contribute to me own lynch because of the numbers of people voting - I am not going to do that. If I was to vote this round it would either be for Phoe or Sets.
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